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Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » May 11, 2006, 10:13:48 PM

It's a great mode, but here, some infos for a future release...

Before the massive help from China and Soviet Union, VC forces received only old weapons from North Vietnam. And between 1965 and 1968, obsolete weapons remained in use by VC Local Forces.

There are French MAS 36 rifle and MAS 38 SMG, but VC were also armed with older ones, like Berthier rifles and Mle 1892 or Mle 1916 mousquetons (= carbines). Morever there were a lot of old Japanese rifles (including sniper rifles) and LMGs. STG.44 assault rifles and MG.34 LMG were given by East Germany (some by Czechoslovakia) to North Vietnam, and North Vietnam sent them to VC. MP40 SMGs came from East Germany.

I have noticed the lack of a very common weapon in the SEB Nam Pack, and also in the VTE. I'm not an addon maker, but if someone can do it for a next release of VTE it would be great : the 57 mm M18A1 recoilless rifle. This RR (American manufactured and Chinese copy) was widely used by ARVN, VC and NVA. Note also that VC used homemade RR. Super Bazooka was in use in USMC and ARVN, RPG-2 was rare before 1965 in VC formations, more common thereafter.

SVD Dragunov were ONLY used during the last stages of the war, around April 1975. Before this date, the standard Communist sniper rifle was the M1891/30PU scoped rifle. Some rare Czech variant, M/52 (a little more accurate) were also delivered. Otherwise, you find : SVT-40 Tokarev (rather in VC Regional Forces ; I don't know if they were used by NVA), Vz 24 or K.98 scoped rifles (in VC Regional and Local Forces) and Type 97 Japanese sniper rifles (in VC Local Forces).

It's not well known, but ARVN had also snipers. It seems they weren't authorized by TOEs, but, they existed. Before 1965 they had scoped hunting rifles (American made) and French MAS 49 with APX L806 scope, they had also M1D Garand and perhaps, some M1903 sniper rifles. Note again that when the CIDG program started, Natives were armed with M1903A3 rifle, M1 carbines and Madsen M/50 SMGs.

Alongside M1 carbines for VC and ARVN, there shoud be M2 carbines.

Etc, etc... I have worked in this subject, so if I can help...
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Re: Weapons

Postby Snake_Man » May 12, 2006, 04:00:54 AM

Etc, etc... I have worked in this subject, so if I can help...

Definitely, all help is greatly appreciated.

Could you prepare some straight list of what needs to be changed, what weapons need to be added (if there are many, please start with TOP-3 for example) and perhaps what weapons to remove (from VC or so).
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Re: Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » May 12, 2006, 04:23:38 AM

I'll do it quickly, Snake Man.

Moreover, I'll give you references (Official reports, studies, books, etc) where infos can be verified, and I'll send some of them (when possible/authorized).

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Re: Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » May 12, 2006, 08:05:02 PM

As I have a little time today, I have checked a lot of units in the VTE Mod. Again, great job, but with some mistakes.

NVA and VIETCONG
Submachineguns
To my knowledge, no PPD 40 were sent to North Vietnam by Soviet Union. NVA use the following SMGs :
PPSh41 (until 1959, thereafter in militia/popular units)
PPS-43
K-50M
MAT-49 (captured from French, and used during war against French from 1951, and thereafter within North Vietnamese forces for a short time)
7,62 mm MAT-49 (A North Vietnamese copy of the MAT-49, chambered in 7,62 instead of 9 mm)
Thompson (same thing than MAT-49)
Type 50 (Chinese copy of the PPSh, with a different magazine)
Type 36 (Chinese copy of the M3A1 Grease Gun)
As the war progressed, SMGs tend to be replaced by assaut rifles (AKM or Type 56) in first line units.
VC used the same type of SMGs, more/but :
Thompson were very common, still after 1965, including homemade copies
Madsen M/50
Sten and Sten homemade copies
Samopal SA.24 (wrongly called Vz.24 ; they rare and perhaps some of them were also used by NVA)
MAS 38
M3A1 Grease Gun (taken from ARVN) and Type 36 (Chinese copy of the M3A1)

Assault rifles
Some M14s fall obviously in the hand of the VC guerrilla, but they were rare and probably not often used as Vietnamese disliked them. So, there shouldn't have VC with M14.
Same thing for CAR-15 ; it seems VC didn't like the few ones they captured.
The pic of the so called "Type 56" is in fact a Type 68, a Chinese variant of the SKS. But Type 68 weren't delivered to NVA (neither to VC). Type 56 are in fact three weapons :
The semi-auto Type 56 (Chinese copy of the SKS)
The assault rifle Type 56 (Chinese copy of the AK-47)
The LMG Type 56-1 (Chinese copy of the RPD)
Each of these weapons were in use within NVA and VC forces, alongside with Soviet original models.
Some Stg.44 were sent to North Vietnam by East Germany, and North Vietnam gave them to VC.

Rifles and carbines
During the first Indochina War, Viet Minh was armed with dozens of rifles. After the Independance of the two Vietnam (South and North), old weapons were given to militia/popular forces in North Vietnam, and put in reserve. When North Vietnam started to supply Communist guerrilla in South, a lot of these obsolete small arms were released to VC.
Bertier rifles (taken from French, and probably some Lebel)
Mousqueton Mle 1892 and mousqueton Mle 1916 (French carbines)
M1891/30 Mosin Nagant rifle
M1891/44 Mosin Nagant carbine
Type 53 carbine (M1891/44 Chinese copy)
MAS 36 rifle
Type 38 rifle (Japanese, rare as the war progress)
Type 99 rifle (Japanese, rare as the war progress)
Type 38 carbine (Japanese, rare as the war progress)
M1903A3 rifle
Mauser K.98 rifle (given to North Vietnam by East Germany and sent to the guerrilla in South)
Vz.24 rifle (Czech K.98, given by China to Viet Minh from 1950 ; thereafter given to VC by North Vietnam ; a very common weapon)
M1 carbines (very common)
M2 carbines (common)
Zip guns (homemade rifles)

Sniper rifles
NVA used the following sniper rifles :
M1890/30 PU Mosin Nagant rifle
M/52 rifle (Hungarian and not Czech as I had wrongly written ; variant of the M1890/30 PU, rare)
SVT-40 Tokarev (nothing sure, but it seems some had been used by NVA)
Some rare SVD Dragunov in April 1975 (I haven't found official infos about this...)
Mauser K.98 scoped rifle
VC used mainly the M1890/30 PU and Mauser K.98 scoped rifles, and some Type 97 and Type 99 Japanese sniper rifle before 1965.

Light machineguns and SAWs
Before the independance of South and North Vietnam, a number of LMGs were used, including Japanese and French. When the insurgency started silently in 1956 in South Vietnam, NVA had
ZB30
DPM
RP-46 (belt-feed variant of the DPM)
Type 58 (Chinese copy of the RP-46)
Some French FM 24/29
As the war progressed, they were replaced and given to VC. In 1965, NVA had :
RP-46 (one per company)
RPD
Type 56-1 (Chinese copy of the RPD)
RPK from 1967
TUL-1 (North Vietnamese copy of the TUL-1)
From 1956, Communist gerrilla had :
ZB30
DPM
RP-46
Type 58 (Chinese copy of the RP-46)
MG.34
FM 24/29
BAR (taken from ARVN)
Type 96 (Japanese)
Type 11 (Japanese)
Some Bren
As the war progressed, older weapons were given to local forces and VC Regional and Regular equipped with better ones :
RPD
Type 56-1

Grenade launchers
GP-25 grenade launchers were not used in Vietnam neither by NVA, or by VC. So, NVA grenadier should be equipped with :
SKS (or Type 56) with grenade discharger
AKM with PGN-2 antitank rifle grenade
VC grenadier would have :
MAS 36/51 (MAS 36 rifle with grenade discharger Mle 51 ; taken from French or South Vietnamese Army)
M79 Blooper (taken from US/ARVN)
M1 Garand + M7 grenade discharger (taken from ARVN)
And the same rifles with grenade discharger than NVA.

Antitank
NVA used RPG-2 and thereafter RPG-7 alongside with a lot of recoilless rifles.
57 mm M18A1
57 mm Type 36 (Chinese copy of the M18A1)
They were very common weapons, more than RPG-2 before 1965.
75 mm M20 (captured from French or given by China)
75 mm Type 56 (Chinese modified copy of the M20)
82 mm B10 (around 1959, but I think later)
73 mm SPG-9 (around 1964, but I think later)
107 mm B11 (around 1965)
Before 1965, RPG-2 were rather rare in VC units (and very rare in local forces units), but VC had :
M18A1 and Type 36, some M20 and Type 56, some B10.
Moreover, a lot of homemade recoilless rifles were made in clandestine workshop, with homemade bazooka.
Some M20 Super Bazooka, captured from ARVN.

I will pursue later with a list of units for NVA/VC. Then, I'll send info on Allied side
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Re: Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » May 12, 2006, 08:06:08 PM

And I'll send you privatly some documents on NVA/VC forces.

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Re: Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » May 13, 2006, 01:21:32 AM

Heavy and medium machineguns used by NVA
14,5 mm ZPU-1 (AA role)
14,5 mm ZPU-2 (AA role)
12,7 mm DShK (some used with tripod in AA role)
7,62 mm SG43
7,62 mm SGM
7,62 mm Type 67 (Chinese MMG)
7,62 mm PKMS
7,62 mm Type 24 (Chinese copy of the Maxim M1910 ; used in NVA at least until 1965, some in AA role)
VC used also Soviet and Chinese models (in weapon units of Regional/Regular Forces) and :
.50 M2HB (captured from ARVN or given by China to Viet Minh and then, by North Vietnam to VC)
.30 M1919A4 (captured)
7,92 mm MG.34 on tripod (from East-Germany)
7,7 mm Type 92 HMG (Japanese)
7,7 mm Type 1 HMG (Japanese)

NVA used mostly these three types of handguns :
TT33 Tokarev pistol
Type 51 (Chinese copy of the TT33)
Makarov pistol
VC used them with also :
Mle 1892 revolver
Colt M1911A1 pistol
Smith and Wesson .38 revolver
Nambu pistol

After the independance of North Vietnam, and with the help of Soviet Union and China, NVA had Soviet and Chinese grenades, including the old RGD33 grenades and the antitank RKG-3 grenades.
VC had a mix of Japanese, French, US and homemade grenades, plus Soviet and Chinese ones, at least for Regular Forces.

For vehicles, in April 1975, NVA used captured M41A3 Bulldog tanks and M113A1 APCs
VC used at least one captured M113 in 1968, during the Tet Offensive.
NVA had also :
Type 59 tanks
Type 63 light tanks
SU-100 assault guns
ISU-122 assault guns
SU-76M assault gun
BRDM-1 M1958
BRDM-2
BTR-40
ZSU-57/2
ZSU-23/4
A lot of trucks were Zil 130, Zil 151, Zil 157
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Re: Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » May 13, 2006, 02:08:25 AM

A list of NVA/VC units... (NVA from 1965 and VC from 1956)
I think it would be great to have more type of units for both :
North Vietnam
Dac Cong ("Sappers", they were the elite - commandos - of the North Vietnamese forces)
Regulars
Militia/popular forces (For CSAR missions with US Parajumpers in North Vietnam territory)
Viet Cong
Dac Cong (Sappers/commandos from regular forces)
VC Regular forces
VC Regional Forces
VC Local Forces
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North Vietnam
Dac Cong officer 1 K-50M SMG
Dac Cong officer 2 AKM assault rifle
Dac Cong officer 3 Type 56 assault rifle
Dac Cong RTO 1 K-50M SMG
Dac Cong RTO 2 AKM assault rifle
Dac Cong scout 1 K-50M SMG
Dac Cong scout 2 AKM assault rifle
Dac Cong scout 3 Type 56 assault rifle
Dac Cong sniper 1 M1890/30 PU sniper rifle
Dac Cong sniper 2 SVD Dragunov
Dac Cong engineer 1 AKM assault rifle
Dac Cong engineer 2 Type 56 assault rifle
Dac Cong engineer 3 Crossbow
Dac Cong engineer 4 flamethrower
Dac Cong grenadier AKM assault rifle + PGN-2 rifle grenade
Dac Cong MG 1 RPD LMG
Dac Cong MG 2 Type 56-1 LMG
Dac Cong MG 3 TUL-1 SAW
Dac Cong AT 1 RPG-7 + AKM assault rifle
Dac Cong AT 2 Type 69 + Type 56 assault rifle
Dac Cong medic K-50M SMG

Regular officer 1 K-50M SMG
Regular officer 2 PPS-43 SMG
Regular officer 3 SKS carbine
Regular officer 4 Type 56 carbine
Regular officer 5 AKM assault rifle
Regular officer 6 Type 56 assault rifle
Regular RTO 1 K-50M SMG
Regular RTO 2 PPS-43 SMG
Regular RTO 3 SKS carbine
Regular RTO 4 Type 56 carbine
Regular RTO 5 AKM assault rifle
Regular RTO 6 Type 56 assault rifle
Regular scout 1 K-50M SMG
Regular scout 2 PPS-43 SMG
Regular scout 3 7,62 mm MAT-49
Regular scout 4 AKM assault rifle
Regular scout 5 Type 56 assault rifle
Regular scout 6 K-50M SMG + mines
Regular scout 7 PPS-43 SMG + mines
Regular scout 8 7,62 mm MAT-49 + mines
Regular scout 9 AKM assault rifle + mines
Regular scout 10 Type 56 assault rifle + mines
Regular sniper 1 M1890/30 PU sniper rifle
Regular MG 1 RP-46 LMG
Regular MG 2 RPD LMG
Regular MG 3 Type 56-1 LMG
Regular MG 4 TUL-1 SAW
Regular grenadier 1 SKS carbine + grenade discharger
Regular grenadier 2 AKM assault rifle + PNG-2 rifle grenade
Regular AT 1 RPG-2 + SKS carbine
Regular AT 2 Type 56 (Chinese copy of the RPG-2) + Type 56 carbine
Regular AT 3 RPG-7 + AKM assault rifle
Regular AT 4 Type 69 (Chinese copy of the RPG-7) + Type 56 assault rifle
Regular AT 5 Type 36 recoilless rifle (Chinese copy of the M18A1), no rifle but a pistol
Regular rifleman 1 AKM assault rifle
Regular rifleman 2 Type 56 assault rifle
Regular rifleman 3 SKS carbine
Regular rifleman 4 Type 56 carbine
Regular medic 1 AKM assault rifle
Regular medic 2 Type 56 assault rifle
Regular medic 3 SKS carbine
Regular medic 4 Type 56 carbine

Militia officer 1 PPSh41 SMG
Militia officer 2 Type 50 SMG
Militia officer 3 K-50M SMG
Militia officer 4 PPS-43
Militia officer 5 Type 56 carbine
Militia officer 6 SKS carbine
Militia officer 7 7,62 mm MAT-49
Militia scout 1 PPSh41 SMG
Militia scout 2 Type 50 SMG
Militia scout 3 K-50M SMG
Militia scout 4 PPS-43
Militia scout 5 Type 56 carbine
Militia scout 6 SKS carbine
Militia officer 7 7,62 mm MAT-49
Militia MG 1 DPM LMG
Militia MG 2 ZB30 LMG
Militia MG 3 RP-46 LMG
Militia rifleman 3 SKS carbine
Militia rifleman 4 Type 56 carbine
Militia rifleman 5 Kar.98 rifle
Militia rifleman 6 Mosin Nagant 1890/30 rifle
Militia rifleman 7 hunting shotgun

Next... VC !
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Re: Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » May 14, 2006, 03:45:09 AM

Vietcong
Dac Cong VC officer 1 K-50M SMG
Dac Cong VC officer 2 PPS-43 SMG
Dac Cong VC officer 3 7,62 mm MAT-49 SMG
Dac Cong VC officer 4 Type 36 SMG
Dac Cong VC officer 5 SKS carbine
Dac Cong VC officer 6 Type 56 carbine
Dac Cong VC officer 7 AKM assault rifle
Dac Cong VC officer 8 Type 56 assault rifle
Dac Cong VC officer 9 Thompson SMG
Dac Cong VC officer 10 Type 36 SMG
Dac Cong VC officer 11 M2 carbine
Dac Cong VC officer 12 M1A1 carbine
Dac Cong VC RTO 1 SKS carbine
Dac Cong VC RTO 2 Type 56 carbine
Dac Cong VC RTO 3 AKM assault rifle
Dac Cong VC RTO 4 Type 56 assault rifle
Dac Cong VC RTO 5 M1 carbine
Dac Cong VC scout 1 K-50M SMG
Dac Cong VC scout 2 PPS-43 SMG
Dac Cong VC scout 3 7,62 mm MAT-49
Dac Cong VC scout 4 SKS carbine
Dac Cong VC scout 5 Type 56 carbine
Dac Cong VC scout 6 AKM assault rifle
Dac Cong VC scout 7 Type 56 assault rifle
Dac Cong VC scout 8 Crossbow
Dac Cong VC scout 9 K-50M SMG + mines
Dac Cong VC scout 10 PPS-43 SMG + mines
Dac Cong VC scout 11 7,62 mm MAT-49 + mines
Dac Cong VC scout 12 SKS carbine + mines
Dac Cong VC scout 13 Type 56 carbine + mines
Dac Cong VC scout 14 AKM assault rifle + mines
Dac Cong VC scout 15 Type 56 assault rifle + mines
Dac Cong VC sniper 1 M1890/30 PU sniper rifle
Dac Cong VC sniper 2 SVT-40 Tokarev sniper rifle
Dac Cong VC MG 1 RP-46 LMG
Dac Cong VC MG 2 RPD LMG
Dac Cong VC MG 3 Type 56-1 LMG
Dac Cong VC MG 4 M60 LMG
Dac Cong VC grenadier 1 SKS carbine + grenade discharger
Dac Cong VC grenadier 2 AKM assault rifle + PGN-2 rifle grenade
Dac Cong VC grenadier 3 M79 Blooper grenade launcher
Dac Cong VC AT 1 RPG-2 + SKS carbine
Dac Cong VC AT 2 Type 56 + Type 56 carbine
Dac Cong VC AT 3 RPG-7 + AKM assault rifle
Dac Cong VC AT 4 Type 69 + Type 69 assault rifle
Dac Cong VC AT 5 M18A1 recoilless rifle + SKS carbine
Dac Cong VC AT 6 Type 36 recoilless rifle + Type 56 carbine
Dac Cong VC engineer 1 SKS carbine
Dac Cong VC engineer 2 Type 56 carbine
Dac Cong VC engineer 3 AKM assault rifle
Dac Cong VC engineer 4 Type 56 assault rifle
Dac Cong VC engineer 5 M1 carbine
Dac Cong VC engineer 6 M2 carbine
Dac Cong VC engineer 7 M1A1 carbine
Dac Cong VC medic 1 SKS carbine
Dac Cong VC medic 2 Type 56 carbine
Dac Cong VC medic 3 M1 carbine

Regular VC officer 1 K-50M SMG
Regular VC officer 2 PPS-43 SMG
Regular VC officer 3 7,62 mm MAT-49 SMG
Regular VC officer 4 Type 36 SMG
Regular VC officer 5 SKS carbine
Regular VC officer 6 Type 56 carbine
Regular VC officer 7 AKM assault rifle
Regular VC officer 8 Type 56 assault rifle
Regular VC RTO 1 SKS carbine
Regular VC RTO 2 Type 56 carbine
Regular VC RTO 3 AKM assault rifle
Regular VC RTO 4 Type 56 assault rifle
Regular VC scout 1 K-50M SMG
Regular VC scout 2 PPS-43 SMG
Regular VC scout 3 7,62 mm MAT-49
Regular VC scout 4 SKS carbine
Regular VC scout 5 Type 56 carbine
Regular VC scout 6 AKM assault rifle
Regular VC scout 7 Type 56 assault rifle
Regular VC scout 8 K-50M SMG + mines
Regular VC scout 9 PPS-43 SMG + mines
Regular VC scout 10 7,62 mm MAT-49 + mines
Regular VC scout 11 SKS carbine + mines
Regular VC scout 12 Type 56 carbine + mines
Regular VC scout 13 AKM assault rifle + mines
Regular VC scout 14 Type 56 assault rifle + mines
Regular VC sniper 1 M1890/30 PU sniper rifle
Regular VC sniper 2 SVT-40 Tokarev sniper rifle
Regular VC MG 1 RP-46 LMG
Regular VC MG 2 RPD LMG
Regular VC MG 3 Type 56-1 LMG
Regular VC grenadier 1 SKS carbine + grenade discharger
Regular VC grenadier 2 AKM assault rifle + PGN-2 rifle grenade
Regular VC grenadier 3 M79 Blooper grenade launcher
Regular VC AT 1 RPG-2 + SKS carbine
Regular VC AT 2 Type 56 + Type 56 carbine
Regular VC AT 3 RPG-7 + AKM assault rifle
Regular VC AT 4 Type 69 + Type 69 assault rifle
Regular VC AT 5 M18A1 recoilless rifle + SKS carbine
Regular VC AT 6 Type 36 recoilless rifle + Type 56 carbine
Regular VC rifleman 1 SKS carbine
Regular VC rifleman 2 Type 56 carbine
Regular VC rifleman 3 AKM assault rifle
Regular VC rifleman 4 Type 56 assault rifle
Regular VC medic 1 SKS carbine
Regular VC medic 2 Type 56 carbine

Regional VC officer 1 K-50M SMG
Regional VC officer 2 PPS-43 SMG
Regional VC officer 3 7,62 mm MAT-49 SMG
Regional VC officer 4 SKS carbine
Regional VC officer 5 Type 56 carbine
Regional VC officer 6 AKM assault rifle
Regional VC officer 7 Type 56 assault rifle
Regional VC officer 8 MAT-49 SMG
Regional VC officer 9 PPSh41 SMG
Regional VC officer 10 Thompson SMG
Regional VC officer 11 M2 carbine
Regional VC officer 12 Type 36 SMG
Regional VC officer 13 M3A1 Grease Gun SMG
Regional VC RTO 1 SKS carbine
Regional VC RTO 2 Type 56 carbine
Regional VC RTO 3 Thompson SMG
Regional VC RTO 4 M2 carbine
Regional VC RTO 5 M1891/44 carbine
Regional VC scout 1 K-50M SMG
Regional VC scout 2 PPS-43 SMG
Regional VC scout 3 7,62 mm MAT-49
Regional VC scout 4 SKS carbine
Regional VC scout 5 Type 56 carbine
Regional VC scout 6 AKM assault rifle
Regional VC scout 7 Type 56 assault rifle
Regional VC scout 8 MAT-49 SMG
Regional VC scout 9 PPSh41 SMG
Regional VC scout 10 Thompson SMG
Regional VC scout 11 M2 carbine
Regional VC scout 12 M1 carbine
Regional VC scout 13 M1A1 carbine
Regional VC scout 14 M1891/44 carbine
Regional VC scout 15 K-50M SMG + mines
Regional VC scout 16 PPS-43 SMG + mines
Regional VC scout 17 7,62 mm MAT-49 + mines
Regional VC scout 18 SKS carbine + mines
Regional VC scout 19 Type 56 carbine + mines
Regional VC scout 20 AKM assault rifle + mines
Regional VC scout 21 Type 56 assault rifle + mines
Regional VC scout 22 MAT-49 SMG + mines
Regional VC scout 23 PPSh41 SMG + mines
Regional VC scout 24 Thompson SMG + mines
Regional VC scout 25 M2 carbine + mines
Regional VC scout 26 M1891/44 carbine + mines
Regional VC scout 27 M1 carbine + mines
Regional VC scout 28 M1A1 carbine + mines
Regional VC sniper 1 M1890/30 PU sniper rifle
Regional VC sniper 2 SVT-40 Tokarev sniper rifle
Regional VC sniper 3 Kar.98 sniper rifle
Regional VC MG 1 RP-46 LMG
Regional VC MG 2 RPD LMG
Regional VC MG 3 Type 56-1 LMG
Regional VC MG 4 DPM LMG
Regional VC MG 5 M60 LMG
Regional VC MG 6 MG.34 LMG
Regional VC grenadier 1 SKS carbine + grenade discharger
Regional VC grenadier 2 M1 Garand + M7 grenade discharger
Regional VC grenadier 3 M79 Blooper grenade launcher
Regional VC grenadier 4 M1891/44 carbine + rifle grenade
Regional VC AT 1 RPG-2 + SKS carbine
Regional VC AT 2 Type 56 + Type 56 carbine
Regional VC AT 3 M20 Super Bazooka + M1 carbine
Regional VC AT 4 M18A1 recoilless rifle + pistol
Regional VC AT 5 Type 36 recoilless rifle + pistol
Regional VC AT 6 SKS carbine + lot of RPG-43 antitank grenades
Regional VC AT 7 Type 56 carbine + lot of RPG-43 antitank grenades
Regional VC AT 8 AKM assault rifle + lot of RPG-43 antitank grenades
Regional VC AT 9 Type 56 assault rifle + lot of RPG-43 antitank grenades
Regional VC rifleman 1 SKS carbine
Regional VC rifleman 2 Type 56 carbine
Regional VC rifleman 3 AKM assault rifle
Regional VC rifleman 4 Type 56 assault rifle
Regional VC rifleman 5 Kar.98 rifle
Regional VC rifleman 6 M1891/44 carbine
Regional VC rifleman 7 M1 Garand
Regional VC medic 1 SKS carbine
Regional VC medic 2 Type 56 carbine
Regional VC medic 3 M1 carbine
Regional VC medic 4 M1891/44 carbine

Local VC officer 1 PPSh41 SMG
Local VC officer 2 M3A1 Grease Gun SMG
Local VC officer 3 Type 36 SMG
Local VC officer 4 MP40 SMG
Local VC officer 5 Sten SMG
Local VC officer 6 MAS 38 SMG
Local VC officer 7 Thompson SMG
Local VC officer 8 Type 50 SMG
Local VC officer 9 MAT-49 SMG
Local VC officer 10 M1 carbine
Local VC officer 11 M1891/44 carbine
Local VC officer 12 Type 38 carbine
Local VC officer 13 Mle 1892 carbine
Local VC officer 14 M16A1 assault rifle
Local VC officer 14 homemade Thompson SMG
Local VC officer 15 homemade Sten
Local VC officer 16 homemade carbine
Local VC officer 17 M1A1 carbine
Local VC officer 18 Stg.44 assault rifle
Local VC scout 1 PPSh41 SMG
Local VC scout 2 M3A1 Grease Gun SMG
Local VC scout 3 Type 36 SMG
Local VC scout 4 MP40 SMG
Local VC scout 5 Sten SMG
Local VC scout 6 MAS 38 SMG
Local VC scout 7 Thompson SMG
Local VC scout 8 Type 50 SMG
Local VC scout 9 MAT-49 SMG
Local VC scout 10 M1 carbine
Local VC scout 11 M1891/44 carbine
Local VC scout 12 Type 38 carbine
Local VC scout 13 Mle 1892 carbine
Local VC scout 14 homemade Thompson SMG
Local VC scout 15 homemade Sten
Local VC scout 16 homemade carbine
Local VC scout 17 M1A1 carbine
Local VC sniper 1 M1890/30 PU sniper rifle
Local VC sniper 2 Kar.98 sniper rifle
Local VC sniper 3 Type 97 sniper rifle
Local VC sniper 4 Type 99 sniper rifle
Local VC MG 1 FM 24/29 LMG
Local VC MG 2 MG.34 LMG
Local VC MG 3 Bren LMG
Local VC MG 4 BAR SAW
Local VC MG 5 ZB30 LMG
Local VC MG 6 Type 96 LMG
Local VC grenadier 1 M1 Garand + M7 grenade discharger
Local VC grenadier 2 M79 Blooper grenade launcher

Local VC grenadier 3 M1891/44 carbine + rifle grenade
Local VC grenadier 4 MAS 36/51
Local VC AT 1 M20 Super Bazooka + M1 carbine
Local VC AT 2 Homemade recoilless rifle + pistol
Local VC rifleman 1 Kar.98 rifle
Local VC rifleman 2 M1891/44 carbine
Local VC rifleman 3 M1890/30 rifle
Local VC rifleman 4 M1 Garand rifle
Local VC rifleman 5 SMLE rifle
Local VC rifleman 6 MAS 36 rifle
Local VC rifleman 7 Type 38 rifle
Local VC rifleman 8 M1903A3 rifle
Local VC rifleman 9 M16A1 assault rifle
Local VC rifleman 10 zip gun
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Re: Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » May 14, 2006, 05:17:34 AM

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A VC woman with M1891/44 carbine

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The North Vietnamese TUL-1 (Vietnamese copy of the Soviet RPK)

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A VC girl with M1 carbine

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VC's SGM or SG-43

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VC with M3A1 Grease Gun (or Chinese Type 36) and M1 carbine

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Propaganda shot ; note the SKS (or Type 56) with rifle grenade
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Re: Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » May 14, 2006, 05:26:12 AM

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VC bunker

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NVA flamethrower

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VC with M1891/44 carbines and rifle grenades, M2 carbine

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VC girl with Kar.98 or Vz.24 rifle

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VC ZB30 LMG
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Re: Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » May 14, 2006, 05:41:54 AM

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VC FM 24/29 and M1918 BAR

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NVA DShK in AA role

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Another VC's FM 24/29

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VC homemade mine

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A Soviet or Chinese tractor used by NVA

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More FM 24/29

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SG-43 or SGM

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VC zip gun
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Re: Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » May 14, 2006, 05:51:10 AM

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VC porter and M1 carbine

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NVA and B10 recoilless rifle

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Homemade recoilless rifle (SKZ) in a clandestine workshop

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Pathet Lao's men (Communist guerrilla in Laos) with M2 carbine

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Another VC zip gun

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VC MG.34 captured during Tet Offensive
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Re: Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » May 14, 2006, 06:00:42 AM

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VC 66 mm homemade antitank rocket launcher

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VC homemade Thompson SMG

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M1890/30 rifle with an homemade grenade discharger

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Another VC zip gun

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VC homemade mines

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VC homemade grenades

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VC homemade M1919A4 machinegun
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Re: Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » May 14, 2006, 06:19:12 AM

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VC homemade Bren LMG

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VC homemade Mle 1892 revolver

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VC 40 mm homemade mortar

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Rare pic of a clandestine workshop with zip guns, copy of m1 carbines, and SKZ

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VC group around 1956 with Thompson SMGs and M1 carbines (they have also steel helmet)

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VC modification of a French fusil Gras and a Kar.98 or a Vz.24

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Propaganda shot of Native women at the Communist side, armed with Kar.98 or Vz.24 rifle

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A VC cache

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The VC at left is armed with a strange MAS 38 SMG ; perhaps a MAS 38 rechambered in 7,62 mm instead of 7,65 (magazine of Type 50)

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Another clandestine workshop

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Weapons captured by Biet Hai team from VC ; the SMG is a Samopal SA.24

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NVA squad

Next to come : ARVN forces...
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Re: Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » May 14, 2006, 04:14:20 PM

"Special" is generic term for Luc Luong Dac Biet (LLDB ; South Vietnamese Special Force), Loi Ho (Recon Commando of the Liaison Service of the Strategic Technical Directorate), men of the Special Mission Service and Lien Doy Ngoui Nhia (LDNN ; South Vietnamese SEALs).
"Ranger" is generic term for South Vietnamese Ranger and Airborne Ranger.

ARVN
Special officer 1 M1 carbine
Special officer 2 M2 carbine
Special officer 3 M3A1 Grease Gun SMG
Special officer 4 Gustav K SMG
Special officer 5 M16A1 rifle
Special officer 6 CAR 15 carbine
Special officer 7 XM177 carbine
Special officer 8 M3A1 Grease Gun (diver)
Special officer 9 Gustav K SMG (diver)
Special officer 10 XM177 carbine (diver)
Special officer 11 AKM rifle (diver)
Roadrunner officer 1 AKM assault (dressed as VC)
Special RTO 1 M1 carbine
Special RTO 2 M2 carbine
Special RTO 3 CAR 15 carbine
Special RTO 4 XM177 carbine
Special RTO 5 M16A1 assault rifle
Roadrunner RTO 1 AKM assault rifle (dressed as VC)
Special scout 1 M1 carbine
Special scout 2 M2 carbine
Special scout 3 M3A1 Grease Gun SMG
Special scout 4 Gustav K SMG
Special scout 5 M16A1 rifle
Special scout 6 CAR 15 carbine
Special scout 7 XM177 carbine
Special scout 8 M3A1 Grease Gun (diver)
Special scout 9 Gustav K SMG (diver)
Special scout 10 XM177 carbine (diver)
Special scout 11 AKM assault rifle (diver)
Roadrunner scout 1 AKM assault rifle (dressed as VC)
Special engineer 1 M1 carbine
Special engineer 2 M2 carbine
Special engineer 3 M3A1 Grease Gun SMG
Special engineer 4 Gustav K SMG
Special engineer 5 M16A1 rifle
Special engineer 6 CAR 15 carbine
Special engineer 7 XM177 carbine
Special engineer 8 M3A1 Grease Gun SMG (diver)
Special engineer 9 Gustav K SMG (diver)
Special engineer 10 XM177 carbine (diver)
Special engineer 11 AKM assault rifle (diver)
Roadrunner engineer AKM assault rifle (dressed as VC)
Special sniper 1 M1D Garand sniper rifle
Special sniper 2 scoped M14 rifle
Special sniper 3 XM21 sniper rifle
Special MG 1 BAR SAW
Special MG 2 M60 LMG
Special MG 3 RPD LMG
Special MG 4 M60 LMG (diver)
Special MG 5 RPD LMG (diver)
Roadrunner MG 1 RPD LMG (dressed as VC)
Special grenadier 1 M1 Garand rifle + M7 grenade discharger
Special grenadier 2 M79 Blooper grenade launcher
Special grenadier 3 XM177 + XM148 grenade launcher
Special grenadier 4 XM177 + M203 grenade launcher
Special grenadier 5 M79 Blooper grenade launcher (diver)
Special grenadier 6 XM177 + XM148 grenade launcher (diver)
Special grenadier 7 XM177 + M203 grenade launcher (diver)
Roadrunner grenadier 1 M79 Blooper grenade launcher (dressed as VC)
Special AT 1 M18A1 recoilless rifle + pistol
Special AT 2 M72A1 LAW + M16A1 assault rifle
Special AT 3 M72A1 LAW + XM177 carbine (diver)
Special medic 1 M1 carbine
Special medic 2 M2 carbine
Special medic 3 M16A1 assault rifle
Special medic 4 CAR 15 carbine
Special medic 5 XM177 carbine
Special medic 6 M3A1 Grease Gun SMG (diver)
Special medic 7 Gustav K SMG (diver)
Special medic 8 XM177 carbine (diver)
Roadrunner medic 1 AKM assault rifle (dressed as VC)

Ranger officer 1 M2 carbine
Ranger officer 2 AR15 rifle (some were tested in 1962)
Ranger officer 3 M3A1 Grease Gun SMG
Ranger officer 4 M14 assault rifle
Ranger officer 5 M16A1 rifle
Ranger officer 6 CAR 15 carbine
Ranger RTO 1 M2 carbine
Ranger RTO 2 M14 assault rifle
Ranger RTO 3 M16A1 rifle
Ranger RTO 4 CAR 15 carbine
Ranger scout 1 M2 carbine
Ranger scout 2 AR15 rifle (some were tested in 1962)
Ranger scout 3 M3A1 Grease Gun SMG
Ranger scout 4 M14 assault rifle
Ranger scout 5 M16A1 rifle
Ranger scout 6 CAR 15 carbine
Ranger sniper 1 M1D Garand sniper rifle
Ranger sniper 2 scoped M14
Ranger MG 1 BAR SAW
Ranger MG 2 M14A1 SAW
Ranger MG 3 M60 LMG
Ranger grenadier 1 M1 Garand rifle + M7 grenade discharger
Ranger grenadier 2 M79 Blooper grenade launcher
Ranger grenadier 3 M16A1 rifle + XM148 grenade launcher
Ranger AT 1 M18A1 recoilless rifle + pistol
Ranger AT 2 M72A1 LAW + M16A1 assault rifle
Ranger rifleman 1 M1 Garand rifle
Ranger rifleman 2 M14 assault rifle
Ranger rifleman 3 M16A1 assault rifle
Ranger medic 1 M2 carbine
Ranger medic 2 M1 Garand rifle
Ranger medic 3 M16A1 assault rifle

Next : pics of South Vietnamese Rangers and Special Forces
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Re: Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » May 14, 2006, 04:47:00 PM

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LLDN

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A man of the Strategic Technical Directorate with XM177 and M203

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Men of the Strategic Technical Directorate ; one with XM177, the other with AKM

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A Spike Team (A SOG unit)

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A Ranger with a scoped M14 (either a commercial scope, or a XM21 rifle)

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Rangers with M16A1, M79 and a M14A1

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A Ranger (or perhaps a para) with Remington hunting rifle in 1963

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A Roadrunner team with XM177, AKM and M79

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A LLDN combat diver

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A LLDN combat diver with RPD

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A SOG unit

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A LLDN combat diver

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Rangers

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A Roadrunner

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Probably a Roadrunner ; shot taken in action or during trainning ?

Next : list for ARVN Airborne, Marines and Infantry...
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Re: Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » May 15, 2006, 01:53:48 PM

Hello,

A (wish) list with realistic weapons for ARVN airborne, Marine and infantry...

ARVN
Airborne officer 1 M1A1 carbine
Airborne officer 2 M1 carbine
Airborne officer 3 M2 carbine
Airborne officer 4 Thompson SMG
Airborne officer 5 M16A1 assault rifle
Airborne officer 6 CAR 15 carbine
Airborne RTO 1 M1A1 carbine
Airborne RTO 2 M1 carbine
Airborne RTO 3 M2 carbine
Airborne RTO 4 M16A1 carbine
Airborne RTO 5 CAR 15 carbine
Airborne scout 1 M1A1 carbine
Airborne scout 2 M1 carbine
Airborne scout 3 M2 carbine
Airborne scout 4 Thompson SMG
Airborne scout 5 M16A1 assault rifle
Airborne scout 6 CAR 15 carbine
Airborne sniper 1 M1D Garand sniper rifle
Airborne sniper 2 Remington commercial hunting rifle
Airborne MG 1 M1919A6 LMG
Airborne MG 2 M60 LMG
Airborne grenadier 1 M1 Garand + M7 grenade discharger
Airborne grenadier 2 M79 Blooper
Airborne AT 1 M18A1 recoilless rifle + pistol
Airborne AT 2 M72A1 LAW + M16A1 assault rifle
Airborne AT 3 M202 Flash + M16A1 assault rifle
Airborne rifleman 1 M1 Garand rifle
Airborne rifleman 2 M16A1 assault rifle
Airborne medic 1 M1A1 carbine
Airborne medic 2 M1 carbine
Airborne medic 3 M2 carbine
Airborne medic 4 M16A1 assault rifle

Marine officer 1 M1 carbine
Marine officer 2 M2 carbine
Marine officer 3 Thompson SMG
Marine officer 4 M16A1 assault rifle
Marine officer 5 CAR 15 carbine
Marine RTO 1 M1 carbine
Marine RTO 2 M2 carbine
Marine RTO 3 M16A1 carbine
Marine RTO 4 CAR 15 carbine
Marine scout 1 M1 carbine
Marine scout 2 M2 carbine
Marine scout 3 Thompson SMG
Marine scout 4 M16A1 assault rifle
Marine scout 5 CAR 15 carbine
Marine sniper 1 M1D Garand sniper rifle
Marine sniper 2 Remington commercial hunting rifle
Marine MG 1 M1918 BAR LMG
Marine MG 2 M60 LMG
Marine grenadier 1 M1 Garand + M7 grenade discharger
Marine grenadier 2 M79 Blooper
Marine AT 1 M18A1 recoilless rifle + pistol
Marine AT 2 M20 Super Bazooka + M2 carbine
Marine AT 3 M72A1 LAW + M16A1 assault rifle
Marine rifleman 1 M1 Garand rifle
Marine rifleman 2 M16A1 assault rifle
Marine medic 1 M1 carbine
Marine medic 2 M2 carbine
Marine medic 3 M16A1 assault rifle

ARVN officer 1 M1 carbine
ARVN officer 2 M2 carbine
ARVN officer 3 Thompson SMG
ARVN officer 4 M3A1 Grease Gun SMG
ARVN officer 5 M16A1 assault rifle
ARVN officer 6 CAR 15 carbine
ARVN RTO 1 M1 carbine
ARVN RTO 2 M2 carbine
ARVN RTO 3 M16A1 carbine
ARVN RTO 4 CAR 15 carbine
ARVN scout 1 M1 carbine
ARVN scout 2 M2 carbine
ARVN scout 3 Thompson SMG
ARVN scout 4 M3A1 Grease Gun SMG
ARVN scout 5 M16A1 assault rifle
ARVN scout 6 CAR 15 carbine
ARVN sniper 1 MAS 49 with APX L806 scope
ARVN sniper 2 M1D Garand sniper rifle
ARVN sniper 3 Remington commercial hunting rifle
ARVN MG 1 M1918 BAR LMG
ARVN MG 2 M60 LMG
ARVN grenadier 1 M1 Garand + M7 grenade discharger
ARVN grenadier 2 M79 Blooper
ARVN AT 1 M18A1 recoilless rifle + pistol
ARVN AT 2 M20 Super Bazooka + M2 carbine
ARVN AT 3 M72A1 LAW + M16A1 assault rifle
ARVN rifleman 1 M1 Garand rifle
ARVN rifleman 2 M16A1 assault rifle
ARVN medic 1 M1 carbine
ARVN medic 2 M2 carbine
ARVN medic 3 M16A1 assault rifle

ARVN crewman 1 M3A1 Grease Gun SMG
ARVN crewman 2 Thompson SMG
ARVN crewman 3 M16A1 assault rifle
ARVN crewman 4 pistol

Next to come : pics of ARVN soldiers...
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Re: Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » May 15, 2006, 02:03:06 PM

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M41A3 Bulldog's crewmen

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ARVN soldiers and M41A3 Bulldog

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M48A3 Patton's crewmen
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Re: Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » May 15, 2006, 02:40:11 PM

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A South Vietnamese armored unit ; note the M40A1 recoilless rifle mounted on the first ACAV...

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South Vietnamese M48A3 Patton unit

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South Vietnamese M41A3 Bulldog unit

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South Vietnamese M113 with a .50 turret

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South Vietnamese V100 of an armored unit

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South Vietnamese M41A3 Bulldog and M113 ACAV

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ARVN soldiers and civilian bus

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ARVN soldiers, perhaps Airborne Rangers

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South Vietnamese C15T armored vehicle

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Perhaps South Vietnamese paratroopers during trainning with an M1919A6 LMG

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South Vietnamese Rangers
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Re: Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » May 15, 2006, 03:00:42 PM

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South Vietnamese infantry medic

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A South Vietnamese officer

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Airborne Rangers

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South Vietnamese M114

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Entrenched South Vietnamese soldiers

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South Vietnamese paratroopers

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A Ranger officer

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Other Rangers, forgotten in the previous posts on ARVN Rangers and special units
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Re: Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » May 15, 2006, 03:26:26 PM

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South Vietnamese paratroopers, note the M1919A6 LMG on the 4th pic

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Paratrooper and a North Vietnamese T-54 destroyed in April 1972

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South Vietnamese turreted M113

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Grenadier with an M79 Blooper

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Infantry patrol along a railway (A map with railways would be a good idea)

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Perhaps South Vietnamese Marines and a M41A3 Bulldog

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Again, a Bulldog and perhaps South Vietnamese Marines

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South Vietnamese Marines ? The first men has an M18A1 recoilless rifle

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South Vietnamese turreted M113s

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South Vietnamese M24 Chaffee

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View from a South Vietnamese M113

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South Vietnamese officers

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A M41A3 Bulldog opens fire on VC positions

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M41A3 Bulldog platoon

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A South Vietnamese armored unit ; a M40A1 recoilless rifle is fitted on the the M113 at the middle.

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M113 ACAV (field modification)

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An uparmored M41A3 Bulldog

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A Roadrunner forgotten in the previous pics on ARVN special units

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A South Vietnamese M8 Greyhound

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South Vietnamese armored draisine

Next to come : CIDG (and Strikers), RF/PF, and South Vietnamese Field Police Force
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Re: Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » May 17, 2006, 07:08:54 PM

CIDG
Striker officer 1 M3A1 Grease Gun SMG
Striker officer 2 Gustav K SMG
Striker officer 3 M1 carbine
Striker officer 4 M2 carbine
Striker officer 5 M16A1 assault rifle
Striker officer 6 CAR 15 (30 rounds magazines were rare)
Striker officer 7 XM177 (30 rounds magazines were rare)
Striker RTO 1 M1 carbine
Striker RTO 2 M2 carbine
Striker RTO 3 M16A1 assault rifle
Striker RTO 4 CAR 15 (30 rounds magazines were rare)
Striker RTO 5 XM177 (30 rounds magazines were rare)
Striker scout 1 M3A1 Grease Gun SMG
Striker scout 2 Gustav K SMG
Striker scout 3 M1 carbine
Striker scout 4 M2 carbine
Striker scout 5 M16A1 assault rifle
Striker scout 6 CAR 15 (30 rounds magazines were rare)
Striker scout 7 XM177 (30 rounds magazines were rare)
Striker scout 8 Ithaca Model 37 shotgun
Striker scout 9 Winchester Model 1200 shotgun
Striker scout 10 Remington 870 shotgun
Striker scout 11 Savage 720C semi-auto shotgun
Striker scout 12 Remington Model 11-48 semi-auto shotgun
Striker sniper 1 M1D Garand sniper rifle
Striker MG 1 M1918 BAR SAW
Striker MG 2 M1919A6 LMG
Striker MG 3 M60 LMG
Striker grenadier 1 M1 Garand rifle + M7 grenade discharger
Striker grenadier 2 M79 Blooper grenade launcher
Striker grenadier 3 M16A1 assault rifle + grenade discharger
Striker AT 1 M20 Super Bazooka
Striker AT 2 M18A1 recoilless rifle
Striker AT 3 M72A1 LAW
Striker rifleman 1 M1 Garand
Striker rifleman 2 M1 carbine
Striker rifleman 3 M2 carbine
Striker rifleman 4 M14 assault rifle
Striker rifleman 5 M16A1 assault rifle
Striker medic 1 M1 carbine
Striker medic 2 M2 carbine
Striker medic 3 M16A1 assault rifle

CIDG officer 1 Thompson SMG
CIDG officer 2 MP40 SMG
CIDG officer 3 Madsen M/50 SMG
CIDG officer 4 M1 carbine
CIDG officer 5 M2 carbine
CIDG officer 6 M16A1 assault rifle
CIDG RTO 1 M1 carbine
CIDG RTO 2 M2 carbine
CIDG RTO 3 M16A1 assault rifle
CIDG scout 1 Thompson SMG
CIDG scout 2 MP40 SMG
CIDG scout 3 Madsen M/50 SMG
CIDG scout 4 M1 carbine
CIDG scout 5 M2 carbine
CIDG scout 6 M16A1 assault rifle
CIDG scout 7 crossbow
CIDG MG 1 M1918 BAR SAW
CIDG MG 2 M1919A6 LMG
CIDG MG 3 M60 LMG
CIDG grenadier 1 M79 Blooper grenade launcher
CIDG grenadier 2 M16A1 + grenade discharger
CIDG AT 1 M18A1 recoilless rifle
CIDG AT 2 M72A1 LAW
CIDG rifleman 1 M1903A3 rifle
CIDG rifleman 2 MAS 49 rifle
CIDG rifleman 3 M1 carbine
CIDG rifleman 4 M2 carbine
CIDG rifleman 5 M16A1 assault rifle
CIDG rifleman 6 crossbow
CIDG medic 1 M1 carbine
CIDG medic M2 carbine
CIDG medic 3 M16A1 assault rifle

RF/PF officer 1 MAT-49 SMG
RF/PF officer 2 Thompson SMG
RF/PF officer 3 MP40 SMG
RF/PF officer 4 M1 carbine
RF officer 5 M16A1 assault rifle
RF/PF RTO 1 M1 carbine
RF RTO 2 M16A1 assault rifle
RF/PF scout 1 MAT-49 SMG
RF/PF scout 2 Thompson SMG
RF/PF scout 3 MP40 SMG
RF/PF scout 4 M1 carbine
RF scout 5 M16A1 assault rifle
RF/PF MG 1 M1918 BAR SAW
RF/PF MG 2 M1919A6 LMG
RF MG 3 M60 LMG
RF/PF grenadier 1 MAS 36/51 rifle + grenade discharger
RF/PF grenadier 2 M1 Garand rifle + M7 grenade discharger
RF/PF grenadier 3 M79 Blooper grenade launcher
RF/PF AT 1 M18A1 recoilless rifle
RF/PF AT 2 M72A1 LAW
RF/PF rifleman 1 MAS 36 rifle
RF/PF rifleman 2 M1 carbine
RF/PF rifleman 3 M1 Garand rifle
RF rifleman 4 M16A1 assault rifle
RF/PF medic 1 M1 carbine
RF medic 2 M16A1 assault rifle

Field Police Force (FPF)
FPF officer 1 M1 carbine
FPF officer 2 M2 carbine
FPF officer 3 M3A1 Grease Gun SMG
FPF rifleman 1 M1 carbine
FPF rifleman 2 M2 carbine
FPF rifleman 3 M1 Garand rifle
FPF rifleman 4 M3A1 Grease Gun SMG
FPF rifleman 5 M16A1 assault rifle

Field Policemen were also armed with .38 Smith and Wesson 4'', Smith and Wesson Bodyguard revolvers.
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Re: Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » May 17, 2006, 07:34:14 PM

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Popular Force with M1 carbine

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Striker with M14 assault rifle

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Not CIDGs, but French Autodefense de Choc, during the 1st Indochina War. Early CIDG in the 1960s look like this. Note the M18A1 recoilless rifle.

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CIDGs

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A Popular Force's woman armed with a M1 carbine and a South Vietnamese military advisor

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An homemade Popular Force mortar crewed by a militiaman of the PF and an US military advisor

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CIDGs at the early days

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CIDGs at the early days, during training

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A CIDG with M2 carbine
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Re: Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » May 17, 2006, 07:45:29 PM

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A Mobile Strike Force airboat

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A Striker

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CIDGs in the early days, armed with MP40 SMGs and M1 carbines

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Popular Forces militiamen at training

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Popular Forces militiamen with a South Vietnamese military advisor at the practice range

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Popular Forces militiamen during training with M1 carbine

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Popular Forces militiaman and villagers

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A Popular Forces sentry post in a village
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Re: Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » May 17, 2006, 08:02:49 PM

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A Popular Forces woman with a M1 carbine

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A Popular Forces patrol

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Rather a Regional Forces militiaman, as Popular Forces didn't received M16s

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A Regional or Popular Forces militiaman sentry

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A RF/PF militiaman with Thompson SMG

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Natives in the early days

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Popular Forces at work

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Popular forces sentries

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A view from a CIDG camp ; note the M18A1 recoilless rifle at the right

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Popular Forces militiamen with MAS 36 rifle

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Strikers with M16A1 and grenade discharger

Next to come : US Navy SEALs
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Re: Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » June 07, 2006, 05:46:09 PM

Hello,

I'm back with new lists... Too much work to continue before, sorry for this delay.

SEAL officer 1 M3A1 Grease Gun SMG
SEAL officer 2 M3A1 SSP SMG
SEAL officer 3 Gustav K SMG
SEAL officer 4 Model 76 SMG
SEAL officer 5 Walther MPL SMG
SEAL officer 6 XM177 SMG
SEAL officer 7 XM177 SMG + AN/PV1 night vision device
SEAL officer 8 CAR15 carbine
SEAL officer 9 CAR15 carbine + AN/PV1 night vision device
SEAL officer 10 M63 Stoner carbine
SEAL officer 11 AR15 assault rifle
SEAL officer 12 M16A1 assault rifle
SEAL officer 13 AKM assault rifle
SEAL RTO 1 M3A1 Grease Gun SMG
SEAL RTO 2 Gustav K SMG
SEAL RTO 3 Model 76 SMG
SEAL RTO 4 XM177 SMG
SEAL RTO 5 CAR15 carbine
SEAL RTO 6 M63 Stoner carbine
SEAL RTO 7 AR15 assault rifle
SEAL RTO 8 M16A1 assault rifle
SEAL RTO 9 AKM assault rifle
SEAL scout 1 M3A1 Grease Gun SMG
SEAL scout 2 M3A1 SSP SMG
SEAL scout 3 Gustav K SMG
SEAL scout 4 Model 76 SMG
SEAL scout 5 Walther MPL SMG
SEAL scout 6 XM177 SMG
SEAL scout 7 XM177 SMG + AN/PV1 night vision device
SEAL scout 7 CAR15 carbine
SEAL scout 8 CAR15 carbine + AN/PV1 night vision device
SEAL scout 9 M63 Stoner carbine
SEAL scout 10 AR15 assault rifle
SEAL scout 11 M16A1 assault rifle
SEAL scout 12 AKM assault rifle
SEAL scout 13 T223 assault rifle (HK33 assault rifle)
SEAL scout 14 Remington 7188 shotgun
SEAL scout 15 Ithaca shotgun
SEAL sniper 1 Remington 700 sniper rifle
SEAL sniper 2 M40 sniper rifle
SEAL sniper 3 XM16E1 sniper rifle
SEAL sniper 4 XM21 sniper rifle
SEAL sniper 5 T223 assault rifle with scope
SEAL sniper 6 12,7 mm heavy sniper rifle
SEAL MG 1 M60 LMG
SEAL MG 2 M60 Shorty LMG
SEAL MG 3 M63 Stoner LMG
SEAL MG 4 M63A Stoner LMG
SEAL MG 5 Colt CMG-1 SAW
SEAL grenadier 1 M79 Blooper grenade launcher
SEAL grenadier 2 M16A1 assault rifle + XM148 grenade launcher
SEAL grenadier 3 M16A1 assault rifle + M203 grenade launcher
SEAL grenadier 4 CAR15 carbine + XM148 grenade launcher
SEAL grenadier 5 XM177 SMG + XM148 grenade launcher
SEAL AT 1 M18A1 recoilless rifle
SEAL AT 2 M72A1 LAW
SEAL rifleman 1 M14 assault rifle
SEAL rifleman 2 AR15 assault rifle
SEAL rifleman 3 M16A1 assault rifle
SEAL rifleman 4 M63 Stoner assault rifle
SEAL rifleman 5 T223 assault rifle
SEAL rifleman 6 AKM assault rifle
SEAL medic 1 M3A1 Grease Gun SMG
SEAL medic 2 Gustav K SMG
SEAL medic 3 Model 76 SMG
SEAL medic 4 XM177 SMG
SEAL medic 5 CAR15 carbine
SEAL medic 6 M63 Stoner carbine
SEAL medic 7 AR15 assault rifle
SEAL medic 8 M16A1 assault rifle
SEAL medic 9 AKM assault rifle

Some men would have Demolition Bag Mk.135 or M18 Claymore mines.
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Re: Weapons

Postby Nighthawk » June 07, 2006, 06:04:53 PM

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SEAL with M16A1 and XM148 grenade launcher

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SEAL and a Stoner M63 LMG

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Ready for a mission in the 1960s

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SEAL with M60 LMG

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SEAL with a T223 assault rifle

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SEAL and M63 Stoner

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SEAL and M16A1 with XM148

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Destruction of a VC bunker

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Postby The-Architect » December 27, 2006, 12:10:42 AM

Just leaned that the chicom or whatever it is the SKS thing, it was really rare and a lot of people in theater treated it like the Vietnam war's Luger. Everyone wanted to get hold of one for a souvenier. Many times when they were sent to the rear for "safe keeping", they'd disappear because REMFs would give them to their guests.
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